Jeffrey Epstein’s longtime assistant Lesley Groff said in a closed-door interview Tuesday that she arranged phone calls between the late, disgraced financier and President Donald Trump, two Democrats on the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee told reporters.

“I believe she referred to a time before, before Mr. Trump was president, that she did arrange for multiple phone calls between the two,” Rep. Stephen Lynch (D-Mass.) said of Groff, who worked for Epstein for around 18 years beginning in 2001.

Rep. Melanie Stansbury (D-N.M.) also said that Groff told the panel that “she arranged calls for them to connect,” referring to the president and Epstein, but that those calls were not frequent.

Groff is on Capitol Hill to speak to the Oversight committee as part of its ongoing Epstein investigation. Trump has insisted he cut off ties with Epstein years before his death and has not been charged with any misconduct, but Democrats have repeatedly questioned whether the administration has worked to cover up evidence of a continued relationship.

“Just as President Trump has said, he’s been totally exonerated on anything relating to Epstein,” said White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson in a statement. “And by releasing thousands of pages of documents, cooperating with the House Oversight Committee’s subpoena request, signing the Epstein Files Transparency Act, and calling for more investigations into Epstein’s Democrat friends, President Trump has done more for Epstein’s victims than anyone before him.”

Groff was never charged with any wrongdoing, but in a class-action lawsuit against the co-executors of Epstein’s estate, she is cited as “Epstein’s secretary who made travel arrangements for the girls, tended to their living needs, and scheduled massage sessions.” She also was named as an unindicted co-conspirator as part of Epstein’s 2008 non-prosecution agreement.

A key player in Epstein’s orbit throughout his life, Groff’s name is featured prominently in the Epstein files rolled out by the Justice Department late last year, showing her on the front lines of arranging meetings on her former boss’s behalf.

But behind closed doors Tuesday, lawmakers said that Groff sought to distance herself from Epstein’s improprieties, telling the Oversight committee she did not see Epstein engage in misconduct.

In prepared remarks provided to POLITICO by her lawyer, Groff claimed to have been unaware of Epstein’s abuse and discussed how her involvement with him has upended her life since his arrest in 2019.

Groff also said she believed that Epstein “had been set up” with regards to the allegations that led to his 2008 conviction, so she continued to work with him long after the case resolved, according to the prepared remarks. She added that she did not know that she had been named a potential co-conspirator in that non-prosecution agreement until after Epstein was convicted.

“I am not a conspirator and I never would have agreed to this language,” she told lawmakers, per the pre-written testimony. “Their unilateral decision to label me as a potential conspirator remains my scarlet letter.”

Rep. James Walkinshaw (D-Va.) said in an interview that he did not believe it was “remotely plausible” for Groff to have been oblivious to Epstein’s deeds.

“He was a registered sex offender, and she arranged young women for massages with a registered sex offender, and I just question whether, whether she can rightfully and truthfully maintain that she saw nothing improper,” said Lynch.

Rep. Suhas Subramanyam (D-Va.) said in an interview Monday night he was eager to “get [Groff] on the record, so that when we find out later she was lying, we can arrest her.”

An attorney for Groff did not return a request for comment.

Sen. Raphael Warnock met Tuesday with Speaker Mike Johnson after the Republican leader requested the Democratic senator privately discuss comments Warnock made regarding Johnson’s faith in a recent interview.

Warnock was asked in the New York Times Q&A about Johnson praying ahead of the passage last year of the GOP megabill that included tax cuts and reductions in social-service programs and how he “understands that.”

Warnock, the pastor of a prominent Atlanta church, responded that he is a “Matthew 25 Christian,” referencing the chapter of the Gospel where Jesus describes the responsibility of the faithful to treat the hungry, sick and foreign with compassion.

“I don’t understand how you read that, say a long prayer, hold hands with your fellow legislators, and then cut a trillion dollars — $1 trillion — out of Medicaid calling it waste, fraud, and abuse,” Warnock said.

Leaving the meeting in Johnson’s office, Warnock said he raised the very same point personally to the speaker on Tuesday.

“We talked about the policy, and we agreed to disagree,” he said. “But we also talked about our faith and our upbringing, and that, for me, was important because I think just at a human level it would help around this place if we had more authentic conversations across our differences.”

“The stakes are too high for us to be engaged in political fencing around here and not have authentic conversations at a human level about why you believe what you believe,” he continued. “And so I left hopeful that we might have more of that kind of conversation.”

Johnson struck a similar note in a statement: “I was happy to meet with Senator Warnock today and have a positive, fruitful discussion about matters of faith and our different opinions regarding public policy. Such dialogue is important because it is always more productive to have these conversations face to face.”

Warnock and a spokesperson for the speaker both confirmed Johnson requested the meeting after the Times interview was published.

Warnock described the tone of the approximately 30-minute meeting as “honest, candid” and “respectful.” He said that the two men exchanged phone numbers and agreed to stay in touch.

Johnson, a devout evangelical Christian, often talks about his faith as he navigates his slim majority and near-constant GOP infighting. He often cites the Bible and advised President Donald Trump earlier this year to take down a photo from his Truth Social account that depicted Trump as Jesus.

“I think there are people gathered in this building every week who go to church on Sunday,” Warnock said after the meeting. “And I just sometimes wonder what their preacher is preaching about. The gospels that I preach center the poor.”

A key U.S. spy law remains on track to expire at the end of the week after Speaker Mike Johnson met Tuesday with President Donald Trump about the future of a key section of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

Trump indicated in the private White House meeting that he’s not inclined to appease Democrats and pave the way for a FISA extension by nominating a permanent director of national intelligence to succeed Bill Pulte, the acting director he installed last week, according to three people briefed on the conversation who were granted anonymity to describe it.

Most Democrats are refusing to move forward with any FISA extension so long as Pulte, a close political ally of the president with no national security experience, remains in the intelligence post. Some Republicans have been hoping a new Trump nomination could provide an off-ramp ahead of the quickly approaching FISA deadline.

But the people briefed on the meeting were left with the impression it didn’t go very well as Trump continues to push back on any suggestion that he needs to placate Democrats to pave the way for a FISA extension.

Johnson told reporters Tuesday that the meeting went well but declined to discuss specifics. He added that “Democrats have taken a hostage” and that the Senate would need to quickly figure out a path forward.

House Democratic Caucus Vice Chair Ted Lieu hammered a bipartisan AI framework Tuesday, saying the proposal his colleagues introduced last week “cannot meet the enormity of the moment.”

Lieu, who is also one of three members on an AI commission convened by House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, said at his weekly news conference that the regulatory blueprint championed by his fellow Californian, Republican Rep. Jay Obernolte — and Rep. Lori Trahan (D-Mass.) — “was not something that would work, because there’s a lot of issues it does not cover.”

Lieu said he welcomes other House Democrats to engage on the topic, but suggested that Trahan and Obernolte had failed to win over adequate support to make their framework politically viable. Their 269-page draft bill would, among other things, override some state AI laws, drawing attacks from many House Democrats and safety advocates.

“In Congress you have to build a consensus, you actually have to get groups and members of Congress and organizations to support what you’re trying to do,” Lieu added. “The particular framework that was released last week got intense pushback from the civil rights community, the labor community, AI safety folks — and so you know, if we’re to get something done, we need to build consensus and build a coalition, and that’s the first step that needs that.”

His unsparing comments are a blow not only to efforts to find common ground on a thorny policy matter, but also expose deeper rifts among Democrats as the party has struggled to coalesce around a unified vision for how to regulate the emerging technology.

Trahan has said she jumped into AI negotiations with Republicans because she is worried about mass economic and humanitarian disruption from Anthropic’s Mythos model, necessitating quick legislative action and cross-party dealmaking. Lieu said he is well aware of the urgency to produce a framework to regulate AI, insisting his commission would roll out its own proposal by the end of the year.

“Shortly after OpenAI released ChatGPT to the world, I wrote an op-ed in the New York Times that was titled, essentially, ‘AI freaks me out,’” Lieu said. “I am well aware of the urgency, many people are well aware of the urgency, so it’s not lost on the people working on this issue that we need to urgently get something done.”

Next week the Senate will begin publicly vetting President Donald Trump’s nominee for the No. 2 position at the Office of Management and Budget, known as the “nerve center” of an administration.

The Senate Budget Committee is scheduled to hold a confirmation hearing next week on the nomination of Hal Duncan to be deputy director of the OMB, Chair Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) announced Tuesday.

Duncan, who currently heads legislative affairs at the White House budget office, was nominated to replace Dan Bishop, who was recently confirmed as a U.S. attorney.

The new nominee is expected to field questions about his stance on whether the executive branch has the power to withhold funding Congress has appropriated, as OMB continues to hold back billions of dollars more than 16 months after Trump’s inauguration.

Even Republicans on the Budget Committee have accused OMB in recent months of continuing to illegally “impound” federal cash. During a hearing this spring, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) chided White House Budget Director Russ Vought for not releasing hundreds of millions of dollars Congress previously approved to help states fund anti-poverty services.

House Ways and Means Chair Jason Smith says he won’t get behind the GOP’s next budget reconciliation bill if tax provisions aren’t included.

“I won’t support it unless tax is in it,” the Missouri Republican said in an interview Tuesday morning — a potential warning to GOP leaders who can’t afford defections given their razor-thin majority.

As House Republicans prepare to follow last summer’s tax and spending megabill with passage of a party-line immigration enforcement package as soon as Tuesday night, conversations have turned to what the GOP would put in a third filibuster-skirting reconciliation measure.

House GOP leaders have been meeting with different factions of their conference in recent days and weeks, from moderates to hard-line conservatives, on what they might support. There are talks about cracking down on fraud in health care and other social programs and adding some federal energy permitting provisions.

Leaders may try to revive a number of provisions that were ultimately not included in the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, such as one that would adjust a property’s purchase point for inflation. Smith said he has a list of priorities that he would “be happy to release” once Speaker Mike Johnson confirms that taxes will be part of the next reconciliation package.

But Smith said Johnson has not yet communicated to him whether his committee would have buy-in.

“I have not been notified whether tax is part of reconciliation yet,” Smith said. “I’d love for the speaker to say tax is going to be a part of it.”

A number of House Republicans — including those in leadership — are voicing concerns that including tax provisions would allow Democrats in the Senate to force floor votes on politically fraught health care amendments, putting vulnerable Republican senators in a difficult spot just before the midterms.

Senate Finance Chair Mike Crapo (R-Idaho), who will need to thread this needle on his side of the Capitol on behalf of his members, said in an interview Monday that he didn’t know what discussions were happening in the House.

He said there is “a lot of tax law that would be helpful to do” in a third reconciliation bill, and that “there are a number of reforms of the health care entitlement system — particularly the health care entitlement system — that I think would be very helpful and would not reduce health care access or reduce access to any of our safety net programs.”

Yet Crapo waved off a question about whether some looking for cost savings in Medicare could create difficult votes for senators in tough races.

“These are always battles,” he said. “I think the American people are completely ready to see us deal with waste, fraud and abuse in all government spending.”

Senate Majority Leader John Thune said Tuesday that President Donald Trump is “weighing seriously” naming a permanent nominee to be director of national intelligence and that he hopes Trump makes an announcement soon.

Thune’s comments come after Trump’s decision to name Bill Pulte acting director of national intelligence all but quashed the chances of passing a long-term reauthorization of a key surveillance power ahead of a Friday deadline.

The hope is that by naming a permanent nominee who would replace Pulte, enough Democrats would support extending the law known as Section 702.

Tuesday’s the day House Republicans are hoping to put one reconciliation bill behind them and start moving on another.

But like everything else for the House GOP over the past 18 months, it’s not so simple. Party leaders still aren’t sure if they’ll have the votes to send their long-brewing immigration enforcement bill to President Donald Trump.

Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas), for one, said Monday night that he informed the GOP whip team he’s undecided on the procedural vote needed to put the Senate-passed bill on the floor.

“We’re literally bending over backwards just to get back to the status quo and to remove people that are just going to come back in four years under the next administration, because we’re not codifying anything,” Roy said.

Rep. Kevin Kiley, an independent member of the GOP conference, said he’d oppose the bill: “I’ve made clear I will not support it unless reforms have been enacted and that position hasn’t changed.”

Other members are on the GOP watchlist, and with primary elections happening in four states today, attendance will be a concern. At least one Republican on the ballot, Rep. Julie Fedorchak of North Dakota, will be on hand today to vote for the GOP bill.

The uncertainty over what has become known as “Reconciliation 2.0,” however, isn’t stopping House Republicans from gearing up for another, longer-shot party-line bill ahead of the midterms.

The Republican Study Committee hosted the top nonpartisan legislative scoring officials for a Monday night briefing on the fiscal details surrounding the process of assembling that bill.

“We’re still early on in this process, but yes, this is a ‘let’s get ahead of it,’” RSC Chair August Pfluger (R-Texas) said. “The better truth we have here, the more accurate that product is, the more we can do.”

In a separate private meeting of senior House Republicans in Speaker Mike Johnson’s office, Rep. Andy Harris (R-Md.) suggested adding some partisan pieces of the regular appropriations process into the bill, according to four people with direct knowledge of the matter.

That would not only infuriate Democrats, but it’s already unsettling some Republican appropriators who are wary of further eroding Congress’ power to oversee federal spending on a bipartisan basis.

Harris declined to confirm what he said inside the room. But as an appropriator who also leads the hard-line Freedom Caucus, he said he was all in on Reconciliation 3.0: “Plenty of fraud, waste and abuse left on the table. We’ll see where that goes.”

Top leaders are speaking more carefully. Johnson acknowledged in an interview Monday night that the appropriations idea “came up today” but added, “I’m not committing to anything. There are lots of ideas on the table.”

Majority Leader Steve Scalise cautioned the entire process is still in flux: “We’re far from agreement on 3.0.”

What else we’re watching:

— GOP HOPES FOR PULTE OFF-RAMP: Republicans are largely leaving it to the Trump administration to figure out a path forward to renew a major government surveillance program before it expires Friday. Democrats are calling on Trump to remove Bill Pulte, an ally of the president’s with no national security experience, as acting director of national intelligence before they support the reauthorization of Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Pulte’s future is expected to come up when Johnson speaks with Trump at the White House later today.

— HOUSE WEIGHS INTO CRYPTO TAX DEBATE: House Ways and Means will hold a 2 p.m. hearing today on seven draft bills that, taken together, could establish the rules of the road for taxing cryptocurrency. Chair Jason Smith and other tax writers, however, face an uphill battle to clinch a crypto tax package this year. It would have to be bipartisan, and right now plenty of Democrats are treading carefully on the matter.

Katherine Tully-McManus, Calen Razor and Riley Rogerson contributed to this report.