Brooke Rollins said data voluntarily provided by Republican-led states has uncovered extensive abuse within the Social Security system, including hundreds of thousands of cases involving improper payments, while Democratic-led states are resisting efforts to share records that could expose additional fraud.

Rollins discussed the findings while addressing how red states cooperated by submitting data to identify misuse of federal benefits.

According to Rollins, that cooperation revealed systemic problems even in states she described as having smaller programs and tighter controls.

“All the red states sent us their data to help figure out what that looked like,” Rollins said.

“We found 200,000 dead people, or people using dead people’s social security numbers.”

She said investigators also identified widespread overpayments, including individuals receiving benefits well beyond what they were eligible to collect.

“We found half a million people getting more than two times what they should have, getting those benefits twice,” Rollins said.

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Rollins added that some cases involved individuals drawing benefits across multiple states simultaneously.

“We found some guy getting benefits in five states, and Maria, this is just the red states,” she said.

Rollins emphasized that the findings came solely from Republican-led states, which she said typically maintain stricter oversight of social service programs.

“I mean, the red states normally have a smaller program, tighter accountability and control,” Rollins said.

Despite those controls, Rollins said the data revealed large-scale fraud, raising concerns about what similar reviews might uncover in larger, Democratic-led states. According to Rollins, efforts to expand data sharing have been met with legal resistance.

“The blue states sued us, and so we’re in another act of litigation on that,” Rollins said.

She said states such as California and New York have declined to provide their data, preventing broader efforts to identify improper payments and fraudulent activity.

“They don’t want California, New York, they don’t want to turn their data over so that we can help them root out the fraud,” Rollins said.

Rollins framed the dispute as a legal battle over transparency and accountability, saying the refusal to share data has forced the issue into the courts.

She said the litigation is ongoing and part of a broader effort to protect public funds.

She also referenced developments in Minnesota that have drawn national attention, noting that those cases have highlighted vulnerabilities in government benefit systems.

“And then the Minnesota piece, of course, which we’ve all been covering, is remarkable,” Rollins said.

Rollins said the legal actions underway are aimed at safeguarding taxpayers and ensuring that benefits reach those who legitimately qualify for assistance.

“So we are in court,” she said.

“We’re going to work really hard to make sure we’re protecting the American taxpayer and the people who actually need these programs.”

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